Utah Jazz Hall of Fame power forward Karl Malone was a 14-time All-Star, two-time MVP, and perennial top contender for opposing big men, but a championship always alluded him. Similarly, all-time great power forwards Charles Barkley and Chris Webber had similar issues competing for a title.

Malone, 56, however, revealed Barkley and Webber were “more talented” than the two-time All-Star Game MVP for the Jazz (per Barstool Sports’ “Pardon My Take” podcast, via Yahoo Sports).

“I’m going to tell you three guys that had more talent than Karl Malone — Chris Webber, Derrick Coleman and Charles Barkley,” Malone said. “More talent. More talent. But, they didn’t outwork me.”