Jay-Z and New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet sat down for an in-depth conversation about a number of topics, with most of the discussion revolving around race in America. When the rapper was asked about Donald Trump's election and if it "has revived the debate about race in America," he responded by bringing up former Clippers owner Donald Sterling. In 2014, Sterling was banned from the NBA for life and fined $2.5 million after audio surfaced of him making racist comments. Jay-Z believes he shouldn't have been punished that way, and explained why to the Times. There was a great Kanye West line in one of [his] songs: "Racism's still alive, they just be concealin' it." Take a step back. I think when Donald Sterling got kicked out of the NBA, I thought it was a misstep, because when you kick someone out, of course he's done wrong, right? But you also send everyone else back in hiding. People talk like that. They talk like that. Let's deal with that.