Giannis Antetokounmpo posted 30 points and 12 rebounds in Sunday’s NBA All-Star Game, and he did so fairly casually. With a line like that, it might surprise you to hear him say that the game itself is not really something he feels great playing in.

Antetokounmpo admitted that the more casual and relaxed pace of the All-Star Game does not work for him, and that he’s so used to going all-out that the game can actually be something of a struggle.