Jonathan Papelbon had only a couple minutes to talk Sunday morning at Comerica Park but he said plenty expressing the need for changes in the organization if things do not improve on the field.

Papelbon signed a four-year $50 million contract in November 2011 but he has known mostly losing at this point in Philadelphia. The Phillies returned home after a 12-4 loss to the Tigers riding an eight-game losing streak and a season-high seven games under .500.

"I definitely didn't come here for this" he said.

Papelbon carries an influential presence in the Phillies' clubhouse as the team's closer a nine-year veteran and World Series champion. Asked what he thought about the direction the organization is headed he sighed.

"Oh man" he said. "We could be here all day."

So then what about this team's ability to turn things around if not this season then next season?

"It's going to take in my opinion a lot" he said. "And in my opinion I think it's going to have to be something very similar to what the Red Sox went through a couple years ago. From top to bottom."

Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. declined comment.

In 2011 the Red Sox entered September in first place in the American League East but finished 7-20 to miss the postseason. The club and manager Terry Francona parted ways following the season and general manager Theo Epstein also departed.

Players soon followed.

That included Papelbon.

"That's part of it" he said about Boston's decision not to bring him back. "That's part of the business. If you want to go in a different direction and I'm not a piece of that puzzle so be it. This is a job. There are no feelings in this game. I left. Carl [Crawford] left. [Josh] Beckett left. Adrian [Gonzalez] left. Now look at them."