"Hawks coach Larry Drew says he values the leadership that veterans Jerry Stackhouse and Tracy McGrady can add to the locker room.

Yet Stackhouse and McGrady will try to make their marks as new guys on a team that's been together a while. Or are they?

"I don't look at as I'm a new guy on the team," Stackhouse said. "Ain't nothing about me new."

Stackhouse, 37, laughed at the joke made at his own expense. McGrady is just 32 but he's been in the league since he was drafted at 18, and he's actually logged more career minutes (29,821) than Stackhouse (29,405)

Both players have been main cogs over their long career but they're no longer at that point. McGrady is far removed from his league scoring title days and has found new life as a supporting player; Stackhouse is trying to show enough during training camp to earn a spot on Atlanta's regular-season roster.

But the career accomplishments of both players stand, and Drew said that gives them credibility with their new Hawks teammates."