Cueto has been diagnosed with a mild right oblique strain. He is still getting treatment and it has not changed the mystery of the timetable for a return.

"We're still throwing the kitchen sink at him," head trainer Paul Lessard said.

The injury is different in that most pitchers get oblique injuries on their non-dominant side.

"It didn't make sense," Lessard said.

Right now, the Reds have nothing new about Reds ace Johnny Cueto and his availability for a possible Game 4.

"We've got to talk about and see how Johnny is," Reds manager Dusty Baker said Tuesday afternoon. "A lot of guys here would be on less than full rest. We hope we don't have to talk about it at all."

It appears that disabling Cueto is an option that is at least on the table, although it seemed a less likely choice.

"We're trying not to," Baker said. "We're seeing if we can avoid doing that. He wouldn't be available the next series. But if it's unavoidable, then that's something different. We're weighing our options."